Making things even more nettlesome, during a dive bar's daylight hours those questionable drinkers are almost always old men, because who else has the free time and disregard for their liver to start drinking at 11 a.m. Sure, both have bad lighting, low-class drinks, and countless questionable solo drinkers. Old man bars are often confused with dives, but I think it's time we finally differentiate between the two.
